Sunday, November 14, 2004

Ork Records discography

Non record geeks can skip this post, but I hope there's somebody out there among the rest of you who is able to fill in the blank in the below discography or has any extra data/info on this label. No reason in particular, just that I enjoy putting this kinda stuff together even if it means another round of laughs from people who pretend to actually have a life. And yeah, the fruits of Terry Ork's short-lived enterprise would make a great CD comp, anybody out there willing and able to burn the complete set for me in exchange for eternal gratitude?.

ORK 81975 Television - Little Johnny Jewel Pt 1 & 2.
ORK 81976 Richard Hell - Another World/You Gotta Lose, Blank Generation
ORK 81977 Marbles - Red Light/Fire And Smoke
ORK 81978 Alex Chilton - The Singer Not The Song EP
ORK 81979 Prix - Girl, Everytime I Close My Eyes/Zero
ORK 81980 Mick Farren - Play With Fire/Lost Johnny
ORK 81981 Link Cromwell - Crazy Like A Fox/Shock Me
ORK 81982 Chris Stamey - Summer Sun/Where The Fun Is
ORK 81983
ORK 81984 Feelies - Fa Ce'La/Big Plans (unreleased)
ORK 81985 Blue Vein - Get off My Cloud/Connection (unreleased)

ORK NYC 1 Television - Little Johnny Jewel Pt 1 & 2/Little Johnny Jewel Pt 1 & 2 (live) 12"
ORK NYC 2 Idols - You/Girl That I Love
ORK NYC 3 Revelons - The Way You Touch My Hand/96 Tears
ORK NYC 4
ORK NYC 5 Cheetah Chrome - Still Wannna Die/Take Me Home
ORK NYC 5 Student Teachers - Christmas Weather/Channel 13

Notes: #76 also released in the UK on Stiff, #78 re-issued in Spain by Munster and was produced by Andy Shernoff's pal Jon Tiven who was also involved in #79, #80 has Marky Ramone (nee Bell) on drums, #81 re-issued by Norton (Link Cromwell is in fact Lenny Kaye doin' a Sonny Bono kinda thing back in the 60s), #82 produced by Alex Chilton...
Update: 84 was never released. Added NYC 5 which adds the quest for NYC 4. With thanks to those who have responded so far.
2nd Update: The above list is pretty much final. Please check the comments for additional info. Thanks to all of you who came up with data and facts, I really, realy apreciate it!.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

This might be a *really* dumb question but as I can see no mention of it on the site, what the hell .... did you know that Terry Ork has just died?

And on an infinitely more prosaic note, to save people years of doomed hunting, the Feelies never actually released anything on Ork in the end:

http://www.geocities.com/thefeeliesweb/press/upandown.htm

FALL1976
The Feelies audition at CBGB, playing for about six people at 2:30 in the morning. One of those six people is the sound man, Mark Abel, who likes the band and tells them so. He also tells Terry Ork, at the time THE New York new wave entrepreneur. Ork comes and sees them, and agrees to manage the band.

WINTER 76-77
A single is cut at Trod Nossel Studios in Connecticut for Ork Records. Jon Tiven is at the controls. The songs are "Forces at Work" b/w "Original Love" and the Feelies don't like the results. The single never comes out.

SUMMER 77
The Feelies return to Trod Nossel this time with Mark Abel producing.

BILL: "It was a real scary place, we were afraid to go up there. It took up two months to psyche ourselves up." The songs are "Fe Ca La" b/w "Big Plans." The Feelies are to be part of a massive deal that Ork has made with Polygram. There will also be singles by Alex Chilton and the Cramps. The results this time are impressive but...

WINTER 77-78
The records never come out. Ork deal with Polygram falls through and there's no money for pressings. When Ork finally gets the money up, it's too late. The Feelies don't like the tapes anymore. They feel their sound has changed.

Jeroen Vedder said...

Thanks for the very informative comment. Sad to hear about Tery's passin' tho'. I had no idea...

Anonymous said...

81979 band name is Prix, Don't forgrt NYC5 - Cheetah Chrome's (great) Still Wanna Die 7", which leaves you another gap for NYC4

Jeroen Vedder said...

Hyped2Death mentions The Student Teachers' Christmas Weather/Channel 13 as NYC 5. Anybody able to confirm this or the Ceetah disc?.

Anonymous said...

Pretty definitive Student Teachers spiel here:

http://www.richardhell.com/cgi-bin/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=5142

No Ork catalogue number but David Scharff does invite emails (hint hint)...

Anonymous said...

Ooops - scrub that. NYC-5 it is:

http://www.richardhell.com/cgi-bin/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=6985

Jeroen Vedder said...

PunkNet also gives the missing number to a unidentified Chilton release, and it does make sense I guess. However, Martin C. Strong's The Great Rock Discography states that the Chilton LP was released and gives it the 81978 number!. But that's bull..
The Student Teachers piece mentioned above is an interesting read.
So far it looks like both their disc and the Cheetah Chrome 45 were given the same catalogue number.
Located my copy of the Chris Stamey 45 and it's a killer!, completely forgotten that tune, must have been 20 years since I last played it!.

Jeroen Vedder said...

The first three releases in the NYC series also got a UK release thru' Warner...

Jeroen Vedder said...

Found a somewhat related disc at a local 2nd hand store today: The Yankees self-titled LP from 1978 on Big Sound. This was John Tiven's post Prix band and featured Ivan Julian (Voidoids) on bass and has Chilton on backing vocals as well as a take on his Take Me Home And Make Me Like It (from the Ork EP), also involved is Van Buren who played with Chris Bell circa '76. That said, the thing ain't nothing special. For completists only...

Anonymous said...

Yeah the Yankees LP is nothing special, the Roger C Reale LP is on that label too I think (Big Sound). Jeroen, I suggest you take this to KBD list to round out the rest. Chuck Warner should be of some use there.
Henry

Anonymous said...

I don't know where I saw it but Ork 81983 was listed as Alex Chilton - Bangkok/Holocaust. Maybe that was never released, I'm not sure. The Blue Vein release (which of course was Richard Lloyd from Television) never came out on Ork either. It was actually released on Ice Water Music in 1981.
Other unreleased Ork records include:
Erasers - (It Was So) Funny (That Song That They Hear) 7"
Teenage Jesus & the Jerks 7"
follow-up Sneakers ep
the H-Bombs - Death Garage

great label, lotsa cool stuff. Too bad all the reissues of the Richard Hell tracks from the Ork ep sound so bad on CD.

James Booth

Jeroen Vedder said...

I've only heard the Hell track on the Stiff box-set several years ago and the sound was none too good like you say. Not sure where I've read this, but I remember that the original Stiff EP was "mastered" from an Ork EP instead of a mastertape, and since the cuurent owners of the Stiff catalogue are the ones licensing this thing it won't get any better untill somebody locates the original master.

Thanks again to all those who have provided info both here and via e-mail. I really, really apreciate it!. And please drop us a line if you've got any extra info here...
Time permitting, I'll start working on discographies of a couple of other small NYC labels and post 'm here.

Anonymous said...

I know I'm being pedantic here but I've always found it amusing that the Ork 12" of Little Johnny Jewel insists on titling both versions as Little Johnny Jewel Pt 1 & 2 when it's clearly a self-contained song.

It's fair enough that the 7" is so titled because the song is artificialy split in half over two sides of vinyl. But as it wasn't originally conceived as a two-part song (surely), making out that it was seems incongruous to put it mildly...

Anonymous said...

has something for everyone. Come on by and check it out soon Enjoy. :)

Anonymous said...

ORK 81984 FaCe'La and Big Plans recorded in 1977 were never released.
A different version of FaCe'La b/w Raised Eyebrows was released in 1979 as single on Rough Trade Records.

ORK 81985 Blue Vein...Get off my Cloud and Connection .
This recording is actually Richard LLoyd and was not released on Ork but was released by Ice Water Music.

ORK 81983 I believe this was to be a Chris Stamey recording of a Richard LLoyd song, "I Thought You Wanted to Know."
Chris released this sometime later on another label.

I was the engineer for those recordings.

The Feelies also recorded Forces at Work, Original Love, with Jon Tiven which were never released

One of the NYC 5's is mislabeled and should be NYC 4 although I'm not sure which one.

Anonymous said...

81983 the db's (i thought you) wanted to know ended up on stamey's car record label. so what happened to those feelies' tapes?

Anonymous said...

There are big plans under way for an Ork Records box set.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please tell me where I can find cheetah chrome's (take me home)

Lindsay Hutton said...

No idea. Those things are scarce. Maybe even rarer than that.

Unknown said...

I guess you all know by now that the entire Ork compilation has been released! Proud to have been a part of it.